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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This movie was filmed the year before I moved to San Francisco. 
2 years prior to that I had set up my belongings, made a will &amp; purchased/got all the things I would need to commit suicide. I didnt tell a single person. I was extremely methodical in my plan, I had explained everything in several notes to different people. 
But right before doing the deed I felt that not having any idea whats on the other side was too much. What if you have to go through something worse? Before it gets better. 
So I called a suicide hotline. The man was cool, basically helped me realize I didnt utilize different stress technique&#039;s (there are just so many ways, gotta find a couple that you love) 
 I came to the conclusion that I could try some more things, if later on it didnt help I could always follow through with my plan.
Nothing to lose.
The reality is that some of us were abused, actually alot of us.
 Ive met so many people that cannot possibly understand, no matter how empathetic they may be, you do not understand the lifelong conflict created when somebody uses you when your a child if you havent been through it. 
Ive met many many many more people who were abused, like me. Some figure out ways to grieve &amp; move on. Some souls cannot ever get over the pain. I am one of those people.

I want to say that the victims are most certainly NOT the people left behind. The loved ones. They&#039;re souls for whatever reason . . . . god, karma, take your pick, were supposed to experience that loss. Just like every single other person on the planet will at some point have to experience loss.
And who are you to say that life is a gift? ? Maybe your life is a gift, maybe others are born into dysfunction, abuse, mental illness, alcoholism etc. Maybe some lives are a complete &amp; total struggle not just at times but throughout! As is my case. Yes there have been times when it&#039;s not so bad but it is never gone. 
Some things that happen in the past are so bad, go on for so long that they will remain with you forever. Some people have a continuous timeline. Others move forward without looking back because they were given the tools early. 
Mr Steel&#039;s movie is fascinating to me. I have seen it so many times. When your on the bridge even if your close to someone it just isnt that easy to react super fast if they get on the railing. 
I dont judge the bystanders. I dont judge the people who make decisions for themselves, if this is what they really want to do they are the only one&#039;s who will have to suffer the consequences. That includes hurting they&#039;re family members &amp; friends. 
I have contemplated the bridge. Not because its romantic. Not because of copycat suicide. Because its freakin beautiful!!!!! 
Because if you live here &amp; youve made up your mind the last thing you would see is beauty. 
Because the bridge is nature &amp; it&#039;s man, which is exactly the human struggle . . . . nature vs. nurture.
Because if your going to do something as serious as this with the will god gave you why not? Why choose a bathtub? 
Because maybe you&#039;ve experienced the amazing beauty of this planet, experienced joy &amp; it&#039;s good enough for you. What if you truly dont have a single desire to participate anymore. Your fulfilled.
Why judge anybody else? Did you walk a mile in their shoes? Did you grow up in their household? Do you know what their souls destination is? 
Eugene Sprague died in style, like he lived. I dont judge him or any of the others. I dont wonder what was going through their minds. I dont wonder, I hope. I hope that the next stage was better.
 I hope that god understood &amp; made them feel ok &amp; that even if they had to journey someplace unpleasant next it was the learning experience they needed to move forward. 
I hope they found some kind of peace . . . . before the next stage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This movie was filmed the year before I moved to San Francisco.<br />
2 years prior to that I had set up my belongings, made a will &amp; purchased/got all the things I would need to commit suicide. I didnt tell a single person. I was extremely methodical in my plan, I had explained everything in several notes to different people.<br />
But right before doing the deed I felt that not having any idea whats on the other side was too much. What if you have to go through something worse? Before it gets better.<br />
So I called a suicide hotline. The man was cool, basically helped me realize I didnt utilize different stress technique&#8217;s (there are just so many ways, gotta find a couple that you love)<br />
 I came to the conclusion that I could try some more things, if later on it didnt help I could always follow through with my plan.<br />
Nothing to lose.<br />
The reality is that some of us were abused, actually alot of us.<br />
 Ive met so many people that cannot possibly understand, no matter how empathetic they may be, you do not understand the lifelong conflict created when somebody uses you when your a child if you havent been through it.<br />
Ive met many many many more people who were abused, like me. Some figure out ways to grieve &amp; move on. Some souls cannot ever get over the pain. I am one of those people.</p>
<p>I want to say that the victims are most certainly NOT the people left behind. The loved ones. They&#8217;re souls for whatever reason . . . . god, karma, take your pick, were supposed to experience that loss. Just like every single other person on the planet will at some point have to experience loss.<br />
And who are you to say that life is a gift? ? Maybe your life is a gift, maybe others are born into dysfunction, abuse, mental illness, alcoholism etc. Maybe some lives are a complete &amp; total struggle not just at times but throughout! As is my case. Yes there have been times when it&#8217;s not so bad but it is never gone.<br />
Some things that happen in the past are so bad, go on for so long that they will remain with you forever. Some people have a continuous timeline. Others move forward without looking back because they were given the tools early.<br />
Mr Steel&#8217;s movie is fascinating to me. I have seen it so many times. When your on the bridge even if your close to someone it just isnt that easy to react super fast if they get on the railing.<br />
I dont judge the bystanders. I dont judge the people who make decisions for themselves, if this is what they really want to do they are the only one&#8217;s who will have to suffer the consequences. That includes hurting they&#8217;re family members &amp; friends.<br />
I have contemplated the bridge. Not because its romantic. Not because of copycat suicide. Because its freakin beautiful!!!!!<br />
Because if you live here &amp; youve made up your mind the last thing you would see is beauty.<br />
Because the bridge is nature &amp; it&#8217;s man, which is exactly the human struggle . . . . nature vs. nurture.<br />
Because if your going to do something as serious as this with the will god gave you why not? Why choose a bathtub?<br />
Because maybe you&#8217;ve experienced the amazing beauty of this planet, experienced joy &amp; it&#8217;s good enough for you. What if you truly dont have a single desire to participate anymore. Your fulfilled.<br />
Why judge anybody else? Did you walk a mile in their shoes? Did you grow up in their household? Do you know what their souls destination is?<br />
Eugene Sprague died in style, like he lived. I dont judge him or any of the others. I dont wonder what was going through their minds. I dont wonder, I hope. I hope that the next stage was better.<br />
 I hope that god understood &amp; made them feel ok &amp; that even if they had to journey someplace unpleasant next it was the learning experience they needed to move forward.<br />
I hope they found some kind of peace . . . . before the next stage</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this was posted a year ago but I&#039;m really concerned about your post. Have things gotten any better for you? Are you doing OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this was posted a year ago but I&#8217;m really concerned about your post. Have things gotten any better for you? Are you doing OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 03:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not, I find it hard to accept that people passing by did nothing to help these people, in the case of Gene particular, there were two people there, no one did anything, not bad given birth he recorded. That film, the director is a beast, he said he did not think Gene would be launched. The life will give back what he deserves. It hurt a lot to see that movie and see that people are increasingly callous and inhumane. But now he is in a better place or in the beauty of nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not, I find it hard to accept that people passing by did nothing to help these people, in the case of Gene particular, there were two people there, no one did anything, not bad given birth he recorded. That film, the director is a beast, he said he did not think Gene would be launched. The life will give back what he deserves. It hurt a lot to see that movie and see that people are increasingly callous and inhumane. But now he is in a better place or in the beauty of nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people on here are a bit senseless and selfish. Everyone wants to feel bad for those left behind calling them the true victims. Tne what, the person who killed themself really isnt a victim? Seriously, pull your head out of you a@@. I see these people jumping and ending their life, and it makes me sad. I wonder what has happened or is happening to them that makes them feel like they shouldn&#039;t be here anymore? For instance, the guy that left a note. Do you know how many times I feel extremely low and just hope a single person could say something nice so i can feel good again? How about you put yourself in these individuals shoes instead of ridicule them. Yes its sad for the families, but im sick and tired of hearing how selfish suicide victims are.. The people who are trully selfish are everyone else who immediately judges them and doesnt try to understand them. 

Perhaps your life is worth living and you do not feel the need to end it. Unfortunately that doesnt fall evenly across the board, and not everyone experiences life the same way. WHat may seem a selfish act to you, may in reality be a persons last hope of peace. Seriously, wtf is a councilor going to do? Pat you on the back and tell you to sing happy songs? Pump you full of medication? Stick you in a mental ward? Yep all those things would make me feel better about myself. No, at some point the person has to leave and go home...and perhaps go home to something that is trully horrific to themselves. Something you, and the phycologist does not have to deal with. 

my wife is my best friend, in my heart. My only friend. And often she treats me like crap. I cut my arm up and bled everywhere. Do you want to know what she said when she saw me? Seriously?

&quot;WTF are you doing, your nuts you need help. Now leave I am going to bed&quot;

After yelling at me all evening for something that was not my fault. I felt so low, and this is not the first time. But this time the pain hurt so bad, it didnt matter to me anymore. And then when i did hurt myself, that is what she responded with. Perhaps I go to the councilor...wtf do you think that is going to do. If my wife keeps treating me horribly how the F do you think a councilor is going to help? Yea i knwo divorse right? Except i love my wife and she means the world to me! Ever had someone so close to you that everything they felt, said, and did to you meant eveyrthing? And then that same person decides to be cruel? 

Yes I do think of my family. My mom, dad, and brother. I never want to hurt them, but at the same time is it right for me to live in complete and utter torment? I dont want to die, there is too much I want to do. But sometimes my wife makes me feel so bad, as in worst then trash. SO what, go to a councilor and talk only to come back home to a woman who feels everything has to be her way and if i deviate she can treat me as she feels is necessary? 

I have been called a bad father, a horrible husband, and worst. Why? Because i can&#039;t cator to her every need. I am forced to stay up all night working on homework because if i do it during the day I get yelled at. Then I wake up late and I get yelled at anyway. I know, ill take some prozac, and write happy thoughts down...that will fix everything right. WRONG. 

So please, stop with the BS that the families are the true victims, put yourself in the suicide victims shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people on here are a bit senseless and selfish. Everyone wants to feel bad for those left behind calling them the true victims. Tne what, the person who killed themself really isnt a victim? Seriously, pull your head out of you a@@. I see these people jumping and ending their life, and it makes me sad. I wonder what has happened or is happening to them that makes them feel like they shouldn&#8217;t be here anymore? For instance, the guy that left a note. Do you know how many times I feel extremely low and just hope a single person could say something nice so i can feel good again? How about you put yourself in these individuals shoes instead of ridicule them. Yes its sad for the families, but im sick and tired of hearing how selfish suicide victims are.. The people who are trully selfish are everyone else who immediately judges them and doesnt try to understand them. </p>
<p>Perhaps your life is worth living and you do not feel the need to end it. Unfortunately that doesnt fall evenly across the board, and not everyone experiences life the same way. WHat may seem a selfish act to you, may in reality be a persons last hope of peace. Seriously, wtf is a councilor going to do? Pat you on the back and tell you to sing happy songs? Pump you full of medication? Stick you in a mental ward? Yep all those things would make me feel better about myself. No, at some point the person has to leave and go home&#8230;and perhaps go home to something that is trully horrific to themselves. Something you, and the phycologist does not have to deal with. </p>
<p>my wife is my best friend, in my heart. My only friend. And often she treats me like crap. I cut my arm up and bled everywhere. Do you want to know what she said when she saw me? Seriously?</p>
<p>&#8220;WTF are you doing, your nuts you need help. Now leave I am going to bed&#8221;</p>
<p>After yelling at me all evening for something that was not my fault. I felt so low, and this is not the first time. But this time the pain hurt so bad, it didnt matter to me anymore. And then when i did hurt myself, that is what she responded with. Perhaps I go to the councilor&#8230;wtf do you think that is going to do. If my wife keeps treating me horribly how the F do you think a councilor is going to help? Yea i knwo divorse right? Except i love my wife and she means the world to me! Ever had someone so close to you that everything they felt, said, and did to you meant eveyrthing? And then that same person decides to be cruel? </p>
<p>Yes I do think of my family. My mom, dad, and brother. I never want to hurt them, but at the same time is it right for me to live in complete and utter torment? I dont want to die, there is too much I want to do. But sometimes my wife makes me feel so bad, as in worst then trash. SO what, go to a councilor and talk only to come back home to a woman who feels everything has to be her way and if i deviate she can treat me as she feels is necessary? </p>
<p>I have been called a bad father, a horrible husband, and worst. Why? Because i can&#8217;t cator to her every need. I am forced to stay up all night working on homework because if i do it during the day I get yelled at. Then I wake up late and I get yelled at anyway. I know, ill take some prozac, and write happy thoughts down&#8230;that will fix everything right. WRONG. </p>
<p>So please, stop with the BS that the families are the true victims, put yourself in the suicide victims shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: B. C.</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>B. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scene you describe of the man leaving a note in his apartment (about not killing himself should someone smile at him) was not in the movie.  It was described in the New Yorker article that inspired the move.</description>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who are hurting will find a way to end their life whether the rails are raised or not.  
The pain for those left behind is hard but this is a film people need to see.  I think it showed the anguish Gene experienced and for those of us who have been tormented with and attempted suicide, this film will touch something inside you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who are hurting will find a way to end their life whether the rails are raised or not.<br />
The pain for those left behind is hard but this is a film people need to see.  I think it showed the anguish Gene experienced and for those of us who have been tormented with and attempted suicide, this film will touch something inside you.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Z</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious as to where phk got that figure &quot;98% of those stopped never attempt suicide again&quot; - most people who are &quot;stopped&quot; didn&#039;t intend to kill themselves, but rather are crying out for attention. 

I would guess that 99.9% of those who truly wish to end their own lives are successful. 

Gene would likely fall into that catagory - I was angry about the filming of his death in that they filmed him for 90+ mins prior to his jump. I was mad because they could have called the cops or tried to stop him somehow - but I now realize based on the calm and peace with which he climed up to the railing &amp; lept to his death that Gene truly wanted this. Had they stopped him that day he would have returned another. Had a barrier been erected, he&#039;d have found another way - people are resourceful creatures, Gene included.  It seems that a barrier might help to prevent suicide &quot;attempts&quot; - those people who don&#039;t truly wish to die. However a barrier would not prevent truly suicidal people from carrying out the event they seek. &quot;Limiting access to the means of death&quot; is pretty tricky - raising the rails of the GG Bridge limits access to that means perhaps - then there&#039;s household cleaners, alcohol, automobiles, tall buildings, firearms, power tools, locomotives, razor blades or rope. I&#039;m sure I could like 100s of other ways that people could achieve the means to their end - so what good does raising a few guardrails really do to someone truly committed to ending thier life?  

To me the notion of a barrier on the GG Bridge would be something of a selfish act for the landmark - a kind of NIMBY approach to the problem. &quot;Well people are going to kill themselves, but at least it won&#039;t be off OUR bridge.&quot; 

I didn&#039;t know Gene at the end, but I am reasonably certain that he was sane. The notion that he was &quot;incapable of making a sane decision&quot; ignores the possibility that some people who are at full mental capacity could make a decision like this. Euthenasia is similar - if someone is in so much physical pain that asisted suicide is deemed by many to be not only sane, but also humane, then why does society have such a hard time accepting that someone could be in so much mental agony that a similar outcome might also be humane? A tragic decision to be certain, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily make it an insane decision. Food for thought. 

RIP Gene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious as to where phk got that figure &#8220;98% of those stopped never attempt suicide again&#8221; &#8211; most people who are &#8220;stopped&#8221; didn&#8217;t intend to kill themselves, but rather are crying out for attention. </p>
<p>I would guess that 99.9% of those who truly wish to end their own lives are successful. </p>
<p>Gene would likely fall into that catagory &#8211; I was angry about the filming of his death in that they filmed him for 90+ mins prior to his jump. I was mad because they could have called the cops or tried to stop him somehow &#8211; but I now realize based on the calm and peace with which he climed up to the railing &amp; lept to his death that Gene truly wanted this. Had they stopped him that day he would have returned another. Had a barrier been erected, he&#8217;d have found another way &#8211; people are resourceful creatures, Gene included.  It seems that a barrier might help to prevent suicide &#8220;attempts&#8221; &#8211; those people who don&#8217;t truly wish to die. However a barrier would not prevent truly suicidal people from carrying out the event they seek. &#8220;Limiting access to the means of death&#8221; is pretty tricky &#8211; raising the rails of the GG Bridge limits access to that means perhaps &#8211; then there&#8217;s household cleaners, alcohol, automobiles, tall buildings, firearms, power tools, locomotives, razor blades or rope. I&#8217;m sure I could like 100s of other ways that people could achieve the means to their end &#8211; so what good does raising a few guardrails really do to someone truly committed to ending thier life?  </p>
<p>To me the notion of a barrier on the GG Bridge would be something of a selfish act for the landmark &#8211; a kind of NIMBY approach to the problem. &#8220;Well people are going to kill themselves, but at least it won&#8217;t be off OUR bridge.&#8221; </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know Gene at the end, but I am reasonably certain that he was sane. The notion that he was &#8220;incapable of making a sane decision&#8221; ignores the possibility that some people who are at full mental capacity could make a decision like this. Euthenasia is similar &#8211; if someone is in so much physical pain that asisted suicide is deemed by many to be not only sane, but also humane, then why does society have such a hard time accepting that someone could be in so much mental agony that a similar outcome might also be humane? A tragic decision to be certain, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily make it an insane decision. Food for thought. </p>
<p>RIP Gene.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie B</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched The Bridge last night on the Documentary Channel. It brought up a lot of unsettling emotions and I have to say that I felt it to be a very disturbing film. It seemed to be more voyeuristic than educational. I kept watching because the person the film focuses on the most, a young man named Gene Sprague, looked remarkably like a young man I know. Gene&#039;s death was tragic and his pain should never have been exploited in this film. My deepest condolences to the friends he left behind on that day, and to all those who have lost family/friends to suicide. R.I.P. Gene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched The Bridge last night on the Documentary Channel. It brought up a lot of unsettling emotions and I have to say that I felt it to be a very disturbing film. It seemed to be more voyeuristic than educational. I kept watching because the person the film focuses on the most, a young man named Gene Sprague, looked remarkably like a young man I know. Gene&#8217;s death was tragic and his pain should never have been exploited in this film. My deepest condolences to the friends he left behind on that day, and to all those who have lost family/friends to suicide. R.I.P. Gene.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Z</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=37568059894

A facebook group dedicated to remembering Gene Sprague - most of us knew or knew of Gene in HS - not many of us are fans of this film. Just putting this out there for those who knew Gene and wanted to remember/pay tribute to/mourn his passing. 

RIP</description>
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<p>A facebook group dedicated to remembering Gene Sprague &#8211; most of us knew or knew of Gene in HS &#8211; not many of us are fans of this film. Just putting this out there for those who knew Gene and wanted to remember/pay tribute to/mourn his passing. </p>
<p>RIP</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie G</title>
		<link>http://awesomeness.net/blog/archive/the-bridge-2006/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene Sprague was my friend. I have not watched this movie because I don&#039;t think it will make me feel any better about what happened. I worked with him for years and he taught me how to make 3D characters for games. He was a gentle genius that was a brilliant artist just like his mother. I can only hope now, that it&#039;s done, that Cuervo the Ferret fell into good hands and has lived a happy life because all those that knew Gene will always have a sense of unhappiness knowing that he&#039;s no longer around. RIP Gene, I&#039;ll miss you and I&#039;ll see you soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene Sprague was my friend. I have not watched this movie because I don&#8217;t think it will make me feel any better about what happened. I worked with him for years and he taught me how to make 3D characters for games. He was a gentle genius that was a brilliant artist just like his mother. I can only hope now, that it&#8217;s done, that Cuervo the Ferret fell into good hands and has lived a happy life because all those that knew Gene will always have a sense of unhappiness knowing that he&#8217;s no longer around. RIP Gene, I&#8217;ll miss you and I&#8217;ll see you soon.</p>
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